Assembly Speaker, 15 May
Joel Defries - Former CSG Student, Ex-Blue Peter Presenter and Head of Marketing at Mangrove UK
We had an amazing start to the week by hearing from Joel Defries, who was a former CSG student, Blue Peter presenter and is now currently working as the Head of marketing at Mangrove UK. Much to our surprise, he revealed at the end that Ms Camillo is his mother-in-law and how he first met his wife at CSG when they were in a play together. Eight years later they met again at a barbecue and their fates were sealed.
Joel gave us an insightful overview of what we might assume success is like but how the measure of real success is a complex one. He also gave some reassuring advice on how to tackle the challenges (including failure) that we may face in life through depicting his own life as a rollercoaster of events.
Joel began by speaking about his time when he was a student at the Camden School for Girls 20 years ago, explaining how “Camden was the gift that kept giving '', and how he felt he was in an open and supportive environment where he could be himself. We were all flabbergasted when we learnt that you didn’t need ID to go to the pub in those days and that there was an actual sixth form smoker’s corner in the school!! Joel also admitted that he was banned from assembly for not taking it seriously enough and did not really apply himself to his studies, achieving 3 Cs at the end of year 13, which was definitely not the end of the world, as he explained later on.
After completing his A Levels, Joel was attracted to the idea of living in New Zealand; at 19 years old, he moved to New Zealand with his family where he attained a job on a music channel, after constantly applying for work experience opportunities, underlining that perseverance pays off. As part of his role, Joel got to interview Pink, who cancelled the interview after just a few questions, because Joel pushed it too far by asking if she 'ever got blue' and making a joke about her career, he was banned from interviewing Pink ever again! However, he was very successful in his job, appearing on TV every day and writing all his own material. Following on from this, Joel found himself back in London, where he was able to secure his next job as a presenter on the children’s TV programme ‘Blue Peter’, where he undertook a range of assignments, including travelling around America. During his time on TV, he became aware of the fact he “liked communicating with people in an interesting setting” and unfortunately “became unhealthily addicted to it”. He felt that it was his fate to be on TV and that his whole identity was bound up with it. After just over 2 years on Blue Peter, he sadly lost the job, when the BBC moved from London to Manchester. He elucidated that “failure is scary”, especially if you think you don’t have transferable skills or a degree, but eventually he came to realise it’s fine if something doesn’t work out, as there are always alternative options.
Subsequently, Joel went on to work with homeless people in Haringey, where he learnt a range of valuable lessons, particularly the significance of actually listening to people and never giving up. He also emphasised how “you might think you know what you want to do, and you may veer off track, but this is ok”! Now, he works for a premium spirit distributor called Mangrove UK - as the head of marketing - after he was approached by his friend who asked for his help, and very much enjoys his work.
All in all, Joel was a very inspirational speaker, as he reminded all of us of the importance of never giving up and remaining resilient and determined during the most difficult of times. Thank you very much to Joel for taking time out of his busy schedule to speak to us; I know we all benefited from his wise and witty words, especially as exam season approaches.
Samir 12LG03